HERBOJOINT INTERVIEW BLOG (Q & A): DR. RONEN (RON) K. BORDOLOI, PHARM.D.

The document is a transcript of a conversation between Nitish and Ron, discussing various topics such as adventure sports, fitness, mental health, and the impact of COVID-19. Here are the key takeaways:

 

  • Adventure Sports: Ron shares his experiences with recreational diving and the precautions taken during such activities.
  • Fitness Journey: Ron talks about his fitness routine, including CrossFit, and the challenges of maintaining a healthy lifestyle as one age.
  • Mental Health: The conversation touches on the importance of mental health, especially in light of the COVID-19 pandemic.
  • COVID-19 Impact: Ron expresses his views on the new normal post-COVID, emphasizing vaccination and mask-wearing.

The conversation also includes discussions on HerboJoint, a menthol-based cream used for joint pains, and its benefits as described by Ron. Ron’s background as a pharmacist and his personal experiences with fitness and adventure sports provide a practical perspective. The dialogue concludes with thoughts on adapting to life during and after the COVID-19 pandemic.

Start of the Transcript:

 

In the realm of sports and adventure, athletes and enthusiasts often push the boundaries of physical endurance, leading to the necessity of reliable and effective pain relief solutions. HerboJoint, a product designed with the active individual in mind, offers a unique blend of menthol and turmeric to provide non-greasy, fast pain relief with a natural scent. This conversation delves into the experiences of Ron, a pharmacist and diving enthusiast, who shares his insights on the product’s benefits, particularly for those engaged in high-intensity activities like CrossFit and adventure sports.

 

Nitish – Great. So just to give you a little bit of context, Ron, before we get started and get started with the Q and A, we wanted somebody, because we are rebranding the tube and one of our target audience are athletes and people who do adventure sports and it becomes really handy for them to have a HerboJoint in their backpacks And however, whichever way they want to use it. So certainly we want to brand it that way. But since that video was simply amazing. And we want to know more about you adventure sports and how injury prone adventure sports are, and, you know, maybe on those lines, we’ll take the conversation forward. Are you good with that?

 

Ron – Yeah, that’s fine.

 

Nitish – Okay, cool, man. Let’s get started.

 

Nitish – Okay. Let me just, pull up the questions. Give me a minute here. Okay. Let’s let’s, let’s just, get started,                           Ron. I could not get a chance to see, see your profile on LinkedIn or anywhere else, but, I know, you are into pharma and you know, just tell us, tell us more about, you know, what do you do so that we can put it on the brief wherever or however, and how, how you came into adventure sports.

 

Ron – so I guess, what I do for work, last 10 years, I’ve been a pharmacist. in the United States and California and actually around the country. Really. I’m currently working at a hospital. It’s a level-one trauma center. I do the inpatient side, so it’s mostly dealing with doctors and nurses, and there are no patient interactions, just doctors and nurses for the most part. I guess adventure sports, I wouldn’t really go so far as to call it adventure sports, really. It’s, I started diving in 2016, and I was doing it pretty consistently up until a couple years ago, and then after a long hiatus, I finally went again this last March when people started to travel again. it’s something I enjoy doing. I’ve been a pretty good swimmer all my life. I used to be in the Navy. So we did have to have swimming tests and things like that too.

 

Nitish – I got a silver medal,  for, for my state.

 

Ron – All right. Nice. Nice.    mostly do a CrossFit for, for exercise and that’s where. I start to get, joint pains and random aches from straining too hard.

 Ron – And then I find this product like, that’s pretty skeptical at first. but it, it, for me anyways, it, it does work. it’s a menthol-based cream. So that’s pretty similar to what’s available on the counter here. but this one has a nicer smell to it and, it’s got turmeric in it, which I like. It’s not greasy and so do you use it post-workout or pre-workout? Uh post not always, but but when I do use it, it typically helps Okay, so is it so let’s we’re talking about it since you mentioned about deep sea. Is it? A few things because I i’ve not done deep sea in my whole life. So we want to hear something about What is so different about deep sea diving and how is it different from swimming.

 

Nitish – In the swimming pool. I mean there would be a lot of difference though A lot of adrenaline rush kicking in, but I just wanted to understand from you.

 

Ron – Well, I wouldn’t call it deep sea per se. This is recreational diving. Recreational diving has a cap of 130 feet. most of the things you see, you’re going to see at 40 to 60 feet, which is about 15 to 20 meters. So 15 to 20 meters is good, a good depth where you’ll actually be able to see sea life. Because when you go any deeper than that, it gets too dark for there to be too much to grow and you’re not going to see a whole lot. So 20 meters video, there were, there were a lot of lights that we could see in the deep sea. That one was 22 meters. so what happened was, this time of the year around March off of the coast of Hawaii, manta rays are spotted around this time of the year. So to attract them, the dive companies will set up a bunch of lights on the bottom of the floor and the lights will attract plankton and the manta rays feed on plankton. So they, they sometimes show up. So it was actually pretty fortuitous for me to actually see that because they don’t always show up. And I just happened to be there. You know, this one random day and, lo and behold, three of them showed up. So we get weighted down. so it’s like a, not a normal setup. You just have extra weight on you. So you don’t rise too much and you can sit on the floor comfortably.

And, and you just stay there until you run out of air and then go back. So, looking, looking by the size of it, it, it looks very, destructive though. It’s a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity. I don’t think I’ll probably get to see that again unless I go back there. And you have to be fortunate enough to see those creatures come to see you. They come really close. They came, they brushed against my head and everything.

 

Nitish – They’re really close. Okay. Okay. So Ron, take us through the process of that particular thing, right? the team, the setup, how did we plan? So these are diving companies, which, you could reach out to and any other people can reach out to. How, how’s the process like, and how do they set up and take care of the safe safety precautions?

 

Ron – so most dive companies will have their own boat and, prior to getting About the day before, you let them know what kind of air you want. You have two types of air. You got regular air and you got nitrox. It’s oxygen-enriched air. if you use that, it’s a different set of training that has to go with it. And, if you use it, I, I personally prefer it because it makes you

 

less tired when you come out because you have a higher level of oxygen, versus just standard air. So, the dive master will be on the boat and the boat’s captain will be there. There’s two of them. And typically there’ll be an attendant as well. The group will set up your equipment, do their safety checks, and then one by one get into the water. You usually go down at the same time. You follow the dive master, he’s like your guide, and he keeps track of you, where you are at any given time, makes sure you’re not running out of air, and you just, you know, you just follow him around, while you do your dive.

 

Nitish – And you have these signs, right? You have these signs, okay. Yeah. Thumbs up. I did a little bit of reading though.

 

Ron – And, yeah, for this particular dive, there wasn’t much to it. He told us that, we don’t even, so most dives you’ll have to do a three-minute safety stop at five meters. at five meters, you just stay neutrally buoyant and you breathe for three minutes. It gets most of the nitrogen out of your bloodstream and then you can surface safely but for this particular dive, we didn’t need to do that because this was the last dive of the day and we weren’t going to be diving for another 24 hours after that. So it was acceptable to not have the safety stop. So once we run out of air, we go back to the boat directly without doing the three-minute stop.

 

Nitish 

 

Oh, so the overall process was for, say, the experience right from diving. Till coming back to the shore was, was it like a half an hour, one hour?

 

Ron – 45 minutes, 40 to 50 minutes is about average, depending on how good you are with your air. Some people can stay down there for an hour and a half. I’ve seen that happen. I personally can’t 40, 45 minutes is good for me because I start to get cold after that given time. And I’m already running out of air, but people who breathe have good breath control.

They can stay down for a lot longer.

 

Nitish – I have a BPM of 50. I can do that. BPM of less than 50, and an oxygen level. I think 94, 93, I can manage even 90.

 

Nitish – Still I can. Alright. Okay. well Ron, I, I think that was, that was really, really interesting. Ash, do you have any questions? We are just getting into, starting into, I think we’ll wrap up in next, 15, 20, 20, 25 minutes. I have a few questions lined up. Do you have any questions?

 

Ashirwad – Uh. Well, not specifically, but, yeah, of course, before you get into such kind of activities, do you, I mean, are you, I mean, do you go to any warmup exercises, activities or, or are you going, if you don’t do that,

 

Nitish – Oh, that’s, that’s a very, very good question prepared for any warmup, like for gymming, we do all stretching, right. For yoga, we do all stretching and breathing exercises

 

just to make your body, get used to what you’re going to do in next five, 10 minutes. It’s not as physically, demanding as you think it’d be. Oh, okay. Holding, like, you need to be able to stand up while holding all your gear. And, that could be probably,

 

Ron – let me think I’d say with everything on, it’ll be maybe about 20 kilos. 20 kilos. So if you can stand up from a seated position with 20 kilos. that’s pretty much the main, the main strenuous part of it. Cause the rest you’re in the water and you should be able to move relatively easily.        So, on boats, I tend to get motion sickness, so I take, Dramamine, it’s a medication you take, the night before, so you don’t really have that issue going on the next day. Have a light meal, and, yeah, just some, some light stretching right before you put on your gear. And that’s pretty much all you need. And some adrenaline rush.

 

Nitish – Okay. Did, did you, so is, and how injury prone is all this? I mean, do people, while they go deep and do they, people feel some sort of, joint pain or muscle pain when they come back, is it a little injury prone?

 

Ron – That will because all the exercises are even if you’re playing cricket or football or rugby, but is it if you, if you follow all the, all the recommendations, it’s a very safe, very safe sport. the, main issue would be, bends it’s a decompression sickness and it happens when you rise too quickly. If you come up too fast, you can get nitrogen bubbles that will find its way into your joints and cause pain. And at that point, You know, you’re gonna have to go to a decompression chamber and get decompressed to release the nitrogen. So that’s the only real main issue that comes with diving, and you don’t really run into that. On recreational dives you’re typically at 15-20 meters. You’re not going too deep the deeper dives are where you start. This becomes more of an issue so if you’re staying at shallower depths, it’s not really a thing.

 

Nitish – Okay, so how there would be a lot of Deep sea divers who would have seen maybe 100 meters 50 meters or something Have you got a chance to speak to any of them?

 

Ron – I haven’t spoken to any but I know the deepest dive is It was an Egyptian diver and he went to a depth of something like a hundred meters. It might have been more. and that, you know, it’s a very specialized dive. You have to go down. Going down is the easy part.

Coming back up, I mean, you have to do decompression stops all the way. I believe this dive took him 15 hours to come back up. Because you have to stop at certain spots and, and breathe and, get the gas out of your, system. So coming back up, it took him 15 hours to finish this dive. And then I think that was about 100, 110 meters. For reference, you can go past 20. So yeah,

 

Nitish – 100 feet meter below the sea level is something which is, no light, even not pitch dark. I can’t imagine what it looks like.

 

Ron – I don’t think it’s going to be any fun at all. This is a. It’s called technical diving. There’s recreational diving and there’s technical diving. Technical diving is people doing things past the recreational limit just to say they did it. I mean you’re not going to see anything down

 

there, but the steps Equipment the preparation, and the crew that you need to get it all done safely back alive is what they get the rush from

 

Nitish – Yeah, it is similar to when you have that free-flying jump from a plane. People do it on a certain level, but, it’s, it’s just that you have somebody on your back who is holding you and then you are doing diving and technical would take more technical and which is over recreational is you diving alone.

 

Ron – I mean, I, I guess, skydiving would be different. I’ve done that before. I did a tandem jump, never doing it again. It was the most terrifying thing. Never, ever, never again. but that one is, you’re, you’re just along for the ride. You’re strapped to the instructor. You, you fall out the plane with him because I mean, He’s going out, you’re attached to him.

 

Ashirwad – I will not even do it for the first time.

 

Ron – I don’t recommend it, but yeah, I did not like it.

 

Nitish – Okay. That is on my to-do list and bucket list, by the way. All right. So how, how different is it in terms of the adrenaline kick that you get, when you compare skydive with, You, you, what all adventures were, first of all, Ron, you have done, let me just frame it this way.

 

Ron – Apart from the skydiving and the scuba diving, I don’t really do anything else apart from hiking and traveling and things like that. Nothing like an extreme nature or anything. Trekking, hiking, yes. Yeah, I enjoy hiking, like traveling, but, the diving was, the skydiving was a one-time thing. I’m not going to do it again.

 

Nitish – any specific reason for that? It, it lasts very long. It’s, it lasts very few seconds, maybe.

 

Ron – You’ll be in free fall for about 20 seconds and then you’ll pull the chute. And after that, it’s not bad. You just have to take in the sights and not get vertigo. but I was very nauseous at the end of it, from all the movement. And it was a, it was a cool experience. That’s just. You know, it’s just one of those things where I just want to try it once. the ability to get that is, is akin to terror. it’s not fun. Did you get a video created? no, it was, you had to pay extra for it. And I was like, let’s take some pictures on the bottom.

 

Nitish – There was this video which went viral in India. where this guy, he was doing paragliding for the first day, in Rishi case, I guess. And then he jumps off from a cliff and he starts sledging and slagging, he cries. I’ve seen, that was the first time I’ve seen mixed emotion. Have you watched that video?

 Ron – I don’t think I’ve seen it. I have seen a video similar to it. It’s, hang gliding, right? I saw a hang gliding video where the instructor forgot to strap himself in right before he jumped off the cliff. And then he was basically hanging. no, no, no, no. This is a harness. He forgot to hang on to this. And, you’re going to get down and he didn’t die, but the video was pretty crazy.

 

Nitish – Yeah, so the video, which I was talking about is kind of really crazy and funny, you know,I mean, I just laughed it my stomach out. It’s, it’s that funny. I think, I should want to share the link. I’ll have it handy. We can share it.

 

Nitish – let’s move on to the next set of questions. I think Ron, you should definitely say that if you, you understand hindi.

 

Ron – Yeah. Yeah. I mean, we left in 98, and after 98, I basically stopped speaking Hindi. I can still read and write, occasionally, small things, uh. And when people talk to me, I understand, I’m just not very comfortable talking back because it’s been like, you know, like 20 years.

 

Nitish – It sounds funny. Okay. By the way, my mom is an MA BA at Hindi literature, so I have to read and write and get full marks in that. Yeah. Okay.

 

Binoy – Moving on. Ram’s Hindi teacher in Delhi was a Mathur also, wasn’t she? Yeah, yeah. I’m telling you Hindi teacher, lady Hindi teacher Matos, they’re very strict. Yeah, yeah, because he studied at Delhi Public School too for, for high school.

 

Nitish – Oh, yeah. Usually, Hindi teachers are much more strict. Usually Hindi teachers are much more strict.

 

Ron – I don’t know why. She was, she was kind of strict, yeah. But Hindi was compulsory only up until, 9th grade for me. And then 10th grade, you can switch to a different language. Like, yeah, I was doing French. So I took French to Hindi.

 

Nitish – Lucky you, Ron. Lucky you. I’m telling you, I’ve, my mom has taught me Hindi because we had the vocational subject in my under-graduation. So even till then, she was like, she’s, and the worst part, The best part or worst part about is you don’t know where the slap is coming from. What, what, which reason for God’s sake, what was that for?

 

Ashirwad – Like you figure it out. You have done the mistake. You can’t even say because it’s a mom, right?

 

Nitish – Yeah. That’s, that’s, That’s typical Indian mom fear, but okay, let’s move on a few set of questions. Ron will try to, wrap this up in next 15 minutes. So, here are a few questions that we thought, is important and people are also going through a lot of mental health issues these days. I don’t know how the situation in the US is. I’m pretty sure it’s

 

better than what India. India has been, really chaotic in terms of COVID. People not meeting, stuck at home, And a lot of mental health. What, what, what are your thoughts on that? Does any kind of recreational activities or physical activity help? and what are your thoughts on just, wanted to understand what are your thoughts on mental health? 

I think, because from the, the way I can, I can speak to you, you, you sound very, jovial and you sound very happy. And then I’m really having a good time interviewing you. So I can feel that way. So, Is there anything that you do for mental health or is there anything, what’s your take on mental health right now in the current situation?

 

Ron – it’s, it’s something you have to take care of just like any other part of your body. you know, my mental health was not very good. when I left the Navy and, I was going through a lot of things. I did get help through a doctor and I took medication and things are a lot better now. You know, I’ve been out for about eight years. it’s a work in progress. You know, you get what you, what you put into it is what you get back. So as long as you’re taking care of yourself, COVID made things a lot worse for a lot of people because they’re, they’re basically, everyone became introvert overnight. for me, physical activity is how I kept sane for the last year. I was able to find a gym that was operating outdoors, so they were allowed to continue. So, while everyone else, you know, was sitting at home eating chips, I was able to get my workouts in, so that kept me going. And now, the country is more or less open.

Things are open. Most people have gotten their vaccines. I got mine back in December. so this is probably the new normal, you know, wearing masks is never going to go away. COVID is going to mutate. It’s going to stay here forever. It’s going to be like the flu. this is going to be the new normal. So, I think the sooner people come to grips with that and accept it, the better off they’re going to be because this is not going away. You just have to learn how to live with it. I was going through newspapers.

 

Nitish – I heard this news that the divorce race has gone up. the, household issues has gone up. People are literally going bizarre on simple, simplest of things. Yeah. Yeah. I think these issues have always been there. It’s just, they’re, they’re more prevalent because of social media and everything.

 

Ron – Everyone’s always broadcasting their shit to everybody live 24 seven. And, And, and I don’t think , those streaming, right? Yeah. Those streaming. I feel like it’s been the same. It’s just, it, it’s getting more exposure. So it looks like there’s a lot more of it, but it’s probably been like that all along. Mm mm-Hmm.

 

Nitish – Yeah. I, I think it has aggravated note is there silently sitting for yours, but it has just degraded and come to the picture, but that brings that the positive side of it is now people are thinking about it. There are more counselors, there are more psychiatrists, there are more people to help you with that.

 

Nitish – All right. Thanks, Ron for that input. That was great. let’s, let me just pull up. Cool. are you being, are you being using HerboJoint and how long have you been? And,

 

personally on a very, human level, what, what do you think, are a few of the benefits or how’s your experience using HerboJoint?

 

Ron – I think I started using it in 2016 or so. So I’m a pharmacist by trade. Menthol-based creams are, you know, pretty standard over-the-counter type formulations.

 

Nitish – So I can understand BSE microbiology. I was on the track to become a pharmacist, but somehow, you know,

 

Ron – you’re not missing anything. If I could do something else, I would have probably done it, but,        so the, the cream is nice because it doesn’t have a medicinal scent to it. like Bengay is, an overly kind of appointment here, appointment we get here. It’s got a very strong smell to it. So when people wear it, everyone around them knows they’re wearing it. This one, it’s got a very mild, Mild herbal scent, if any scent at all. and that’s a big plus because when I put on gloves of it, I don’t like to smell like it.

 

Nitish – Yeah. It’s greasy and it smell like,

 

Ron – Yeah. Th this, this stuff, that it’s very non greasy. It gets the door quickly. It’s not like the other ointments I’ve used in the past.

 

Nitish – Nice. So, if somebody has to use herbojoint, right? I, I think, based on your based on your understanding, how they can use it, can it be used as pre-workout or

post-workout? Have you used it? pre workout sometime or some time it happened that you have, you know, you have a long day and you’re, you’re going, you’re not in your fittest of state. So you take precautions and you, use it as a pre-workout and then you get and, You don’t have that much of muscle soreness once the event has happened or you’re playing a game or you’re doing anything. So any such kind of uses that you do?

 

Ron – If I could think of something, you know, if I know a particular spot, my body’s been giving me issues. You know, like sometimes I get pain in my shoulder after working out. So maybe if I put it on before it could help. there’s something I could try. I haven’t done it before, but, yeah, I don’t see why that, that wouldn’t work.

 

Nitish – All right. so in, in terms of, and, Ron, if I’m, right, you, you, What’s your age? If it’s, it’s not going there, but again, what’s your, you would be like 35, 37,

 

Ron – 37.

 

Nitish – Okay. You look like 30, by the way, man, the kind of fitness that you have.    so I have seen it in myself when I was 23, 22. 25, the workout I used to do, the parties I used to do, the limits I had, the, the stomach to do, and the metabolic rate and your body supports that, till 30. I’ve also crossed 30 and I know the metabolic, after 25, 30, the metabolic rate slows down. So how important is this? Is it to, I mean, to cope up with the, how, what are few things that, because as I know that, and as we can see that a very fit person, so any tips on that metabolic rate?

 

Ashirwad – Just to, just to add, add. I think, I think the sedentary lifestyle that we have, I think it also, I mean, keeping in mind that kind of lifestyle that most people have. So, I mean, how do you cope up with and how do you plan up? you know, to keep yourself safe and at least resilient to these new things that are coming up, new issues that are coming up, how to plan out, how to keep yourself safe, how to balance your life and your body.

 

Nitish – Did you get that question, Ron?

 

Ron – The last part muffled. I could make up the last part of it.

 

Nitish – Okay, so let me just simplify it for you. as the age grows, the metabolic rate goes down and the kind of amazing lifestyle that we have, right? Sitting all day in front of the laptop. Any tips to trigger that metabolic rate and a few health tips maybe?

 

Ron – Oh man, if I could get some, I’d use it myself. I’ve been putting on a lot of weight lately. After about 35, I think my metabolism was like, I’m done. Normally, what I normally do is eat whatever I want. And as long as I’m working out, my weight stays the same. Now, I have noticed that the weight is not coming off. So, this is the heaviest I’ve ever been in my life. About 93 kilos right now. I’m usually about 85. so, the plan is to drop it. By another five, maybe eight kilos. That’s what my goal is. And the only way that’s going to happen is to cut down the food because the exercise part I’m doing, I need to stop eating as much and since I’m at home a lot, yeah, that’s kind of where, that’s kind of where I’m at right now. Things could be, could be bad, but, but they’re like, things could be worse, but, but they’re not bad. So, yeah.

 

Nitish – Yeah, and you can’t miss out on home food, home-cooked food, I think. Yeah, yeah. You know what, this COVID Yeah, go ahead.

 

Ron – Vegetarian diet. Vegan? Not vegan. I can’t stop eating cheese and milk. But my partner who I live with High Five. Somebody said that. High five for that. Yeah, vegan is too strict. I tried doing that for a day and then it’s just, no, it’s not happening. Yeah. It’s too boring. I mean, without milk and eggs.So my plan is to eat vegetarian about three to five days a week. and, and try doing that.

 

Nitish – Oh, nice. And any activities or stretching or yoga meditation because last COVID, okay. The weight you were talking about, just wanted to add on that. I went, so the COVID was last COVID was a blessing in disguise. I got to spend almost five months at my home and I gained 10 kgs, eating homemade food. So I’m getting back on track, trying few, nothing like jogging and swimming and badminton. So I usually try these, either of these three, is there any go to sports for you that you do or any go to workouts that you do to keep yourself fit. I don’t play sports anymore.

 

Ron – I used to play, football, soccer, Oh, sports, sports, nothing like sports, nothing like teams.

 

Nitish – you get your calories burn out and at the same time, you’re reducing your weight and getting fit.

 

Ron – yeah, so I’ve been doing CrossFit for about eight years. It’s a, it’s a combination workout of, weights and, high intensity, short interval training. so. A lot of Olympic lifting, you know, snatches, deadlifts, clean and jerks, things like that. And then combine that with, with cardio elements, pull ups, pushups, a lot of plyometric work. so it’s a lot of different things happening at once. It’s a group based class, so it’s led by an instructor and, you know, there’s participants going to every class and, they’re typically an hour. And, I find it’s interesting because it’s always different every time I go in there versus going to a gym and doing my, my own routine, which I’ll get bored of after a little while. You know, I haven’t lifted weights in a conventional gym in a long time because, you know, I get in the habit. I do the same thing and then I stop seeing results because my body just got used to it. but this way it’s always different. It’s always changing. so I like that.

 

Ron – And kudos to deadlift and squats because you’ll find two kinds of people in the gym.One would be. They would be doing arms, shoulders, and the other kind of people, they will work on their core and legs.

 

Nitish – Every day, you can’t skip leg day. Chicken legs.

 

Nitish – All right, Ron. I think that was fun. with that,     I’ll come to the end of the questions. And actually, what do you have any add on questions for? And thank you so much for taking time. for this really appreciate it.

 

Ashirwad – yeah, I mean, I don’t have anything else to ask. Dr. Binoy and I said. It was really insightful and, yeah, hoping to have more such conversations in the future.

 

Binoy – Okay, now out of this, whatever bits and pieces you want to take, whether the

ready-made video or out of this conversation, you may, but just keep in mind that in case any copyright issues comes up for that video.

 

Ron – we may have to pay, which we will pay, but then as of now, I do not know whom to pay or how to go about it, but just keep that in the back of your mind. Yeah, maybe I’ll figure that out. Yeah, it’s not likely. you know, it was done by the, the instructor. He had a, he had a GoPro with him. And he just did. It’s not like this is his business or anything like that. so I don’t think it’s going to be an issue and especially since this is a very, niche product, which is like across the world. Like, you know, what are the chances it pops up on his radar? It’s like, yeah, it’s going to be fine.

 

Nitish – Yeah., I am telling you, Ron, it’s viral material.

 

Ron – It’s a lot of material we can anyway, give him credits for the yeah I think that maybe you can give like free business to them because if you mentioned the company that they’re with the colon diet company We’ll get some Yeah. That’ll benefit them.

 

Ashirwad – Yeah. We can interlink with their company’s website.

 

Nitish – Yeah. No, because if we reach out to them directly, they’ll ask for extra bucks. Right. For now. Okay. Let let this situation play itself. Yeah.

 

Nitish – Okay. Alright man. Ron, it was great speaking to you. your thoughts on fitness, the way, you. Keep up your metabolic rate the way you do, adventure sports. I mean, deep, deep sea diving is also a kind of adventure sports, right?

 

Ron – yeah, yeah, I think so.

 

Nitish – And I hope, or we hope that you get into a lot of adventures group, but you want to do, and create conversation and great insights, not only on her Herbojoint but also as an overall mental health, we covered COVID. We haven’t, we haven’t, there was no. Question for COVID just one last question as in what are your thoughts on COVID and it’s new way of living and do you have anything from your end to increase immunity or make Tweaks in your life, day-to-day routine? What are your thoughts on COVID?

 

Ron – I feel like it’s here to stay. So everyone should get vaccinated, wear masks in public or, when you’re going to be in tight enclosures with people. Hand hygiene is important. and, yeah, yeah, just following the CDC guidelines, is what’s happening for us in the

  1. So. anyways. there’s a lot of misinformation out there where people don’t want to get vaccinated, they don’t want to wear their masks, and then they wonder why, you know, it’s not going away and, and I, I blame social media for all of this. that’s my little take on it because I feel like it’s caused a lot of ills, a lot of nonsense to kind of get past.

Nitish – It aggravates anxiety.

 

Ron – Exactly. It really does. WhatsApp, people send these forwards of all this nonsense, like my dad is responsible for part of this. it’s a lot of misinformation getting around a lot faster. Then it would have if that wasn’t there. And, and that’s kind of shaping the way the world is out right now. Yeah. Yeah. Good. Good to hear that thought. And I think we’ll, we’ll, come back in a better shape. the people who stayed positive and, during this while would come out stronger people who were a little on the negative side of this, of the, spectra the feeling with anxiety issues, panic issues, and. It gets worse with it. So I think we are the first set of people, hopefully, finger crossed. If you are that, if you’re not, then worry about it.

 

Ashirwad – So that’s called a happy hypoxia. I mean, you, you, your, your oxygen level drops down if you’re more anxious and worried about all the things, your breathing changes.

 Nitish – Yeah. So once you get the virus, then things get. I have this, I have this app for 10 seconds, but I won’t talk about that particular app. It’s been a time and one last question.

Ron. Just one line or two line, if I have to throw you a word called HerboJoint.

 

Nitish – Just to sum it up, maybe one line or two line for HerboJoint as a product.

 

Ron – Non-invasive, fast pain relief,     with a natural scent. Right. Easy to carry. Yeah. Non greasy, fast pain relief with a natural scent.

 

Nitish – Okay. Sounds good. Yep. There you go. All right, guys. Thank you so much for your time. That’s a wrap. All right. Have a good day, guys.

 

Nitish – All right. All right, Ron. Thank you so much. Thank you, Ron. Thank you, everyone. Bye bye. Okay. Bye.

 

The discussion with Ron not only sheds light on the practical applications of HerboJoint for athletes and adventurers but also touches upon broader topics such as mental health, the impact of COVID-19 on lifestyles, and the importance of maintaining physical activity for overall well-being. As we navigate the challenges of modern living, products like HerboJoint serve as a testament to the innovative solutions that can enhance our quality of life, providing relief and support where it’s most needed. Ron’s perspective as both a healthcare professional and an active participant in demanding sports underscores the product’s efficacy and versatility, making it a valuable addition to any athlete’s regimen.

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